Grendex.cc - The Highest RCB
Investment plans: 4.5% hourly for 24 hours (deposit included), 115% - 2450% after 1 - 16 days
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RCB RULES
- You must be our referral to request Referral Commission Back (RCB).
- It's not allowed to request RCB for someone else.
- RCB must be ordered within 12 hours after deposit.
- You can order RCB using any payment processor if you deposited via cryptocurrencies.
- We don't offer RCB and insurance for Perfect Money deposits!
- Please Do NOT submit RCB request if you Re-invested from your account balance when there is no referral commission.
- RCB requests via Proxy, VPN, TOR, black list IPs maybe be declined!
- Fake E-mails are not allowed, email must be the same as you used for register at project!
- E-mail must be the same as used for 1st RCB if it's not 1st RCB request!
- Multiple accounts in project are not allowed!
- No RCB for paid or with bonus deposit Hyip- Monitors, Listers, Blogs, Promoters, etc!
- We pay RCB if we got the referral commission paid from project
- Min amount for ePayCore transfer is $0.1. RCB amount must be equals or greater
- Referral earning amount must greater or equal min. withdrawal amount (especially applies for cryptocurrencies deposits).
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- RCB request can be processed up to 24 business hours (3 working days)
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All registered members will receive some additional bonuses.
All registered members will receive some additional bonuses.
Month TOP investor bonus: We pay bonuses for our registered members. Explore bonuses details:
Month (TOP 50)
First investor bonuses for deposits from $50: 1st - $2, 2nd - $1.5, 3th - $1, 4th - $0.75, 5th - $0.5
*Applied only for first RCB request from one user.
**Only for projects with "Medium" or higher listing.
*Applied only for first RCB request from one user.
**Only for projects with "Medium" or higher listing.
Happy weekend RCB multipliers: First deposit RCB: x 1.15, Reinvest RCB: x 1.05
* Applied only on Saturday and Sunday by server time!
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* Applied only on Saturday and Sunday by server time!
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"Grendex.cc" RCB REQUESTS
| Date Time | Username | EPS | Wallet | Deposit | RCB | Status | Batch |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11/14/2022 1:04:44 PM | al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TSm*** | 500 | 34.60 | Paid | 5ce6b8e1a3... |
| 11/14/2022 10:08:38 AM | mo*** | Perfect Money | U21*** | 55.37 | 4.07 | Paid | 491847625 |
| 11/14/2022 9:00:40 AM | Vi*** | USDT TRC-20 | TUb*** | 60 | 9.55 | Paid | ab15b0030e... |
| 11/14/2022 8:05:22 AM | Kr*** | USDT TRC-20 | T9y*** | 100 | 7.05 | Paid | e999cef846... |
| 11/14/2022 3:18:05 AM | al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TSm*** | 500 | 34.65 | Paid | d11cfa340f... |
| 11/14/2022 2:53:46 AM | la*** | USDT TRC-20 | TEL*** | 225 | 15.45 | Paid | 1da270fbb3... |
| 11/14/2022 2:43:36 AM | Pr*** | USDT TRC-20 | TED*** | 50 | 8.95 | Paid | 12df9642ae... |
| 11/14/2022 12:19:18 AM | Vi*** | USDT TRC-20 | TFQ*** | 210 | 14.55 | Paid | 2312eddf83... |
| 11/13/2022 10:36:34 PM | La*** | USDT TRC-20 | TEE*** | 30 | 2.26 | Paid | 1e672481f9... |
| 11/13/2022 9:02:14 PM | bo*** | USDT TRC-20 | TBi*** | 100 | 7.46 | Paid | cbec3e21de... |
| 11/13/2022 9:00:09 PM | An*** | USDT TRC-20 | TBH*** | 103 | 18.67 | Paid | 4a7a3966e7... |
| 11/13/2022 8:55:16 PM | bo*** | USDT TRC-20 | TBi*** | 100 | 7.51 | Paid | d92a635c6b... |
| 11/13/2022 8:18:16 PM | mi*** | USDT TRC-20 | TAg*** | 18 | 2.38 | Paid | a97c7015b4... |
| 11/13/2022 6:47:48 PM | na*** | USDT TRC-20 | TQ1*** | 10 | 1.61 | Paid | 69c1d9814d... |
| 11/13/2022 6:26:02 PM | al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TSm*** | 400 | 29.50 | Paid | 96d1d9bec8... |
| 11/13/2022 5:04:28 PM | Pa*** | USDT TRC-20 | TPn*** | 120 | 8.79 | Paid | b4b11be47e... |
| 11/13/2022 5:03:42 PM | Ez*** | USDT TRC-20 | TDg*** | 110 | 14.86 | Paid | b99ccb4fae... |
| 11/13/2022 12:39:26 PM | Al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TWu*** | 250 | 18.06 | Paid | 2c306d82b5... |
| 11/13/2022 12:10:35 PM | al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TSm*** | 400 | 39.73 | Paid | 55336e516c... |
| 11/13/2022 12:03:37 PM | ki*** | USDT TRC-20 | TQZ*** | 118 | 8.87 | Paid | 7f9a4ee067... |
| 11/13/2022 11:35:26 AM | Va*** | USDT TRC-20 | TNR*** | 50 | 3.77 | Paid | cfc69ddd2a... |
| 11/13/2022 10:10:15 AM | mo*** | Perfect Money | U21*** | 58.38 | 4.53 | Paid | 491707906 |
| 11/13/2022 9:34:28 AM | Ni*** | Perfect Money | U23*** | 23 | 1.45 | Paid | 491707909 |
| 11/13/2022 9:33:01 AM | Ni*** | USDT TRC-20 | TD5*** | 60 | 3.78 | Paid | 259ab9838e... |
| 11/13/2022 8:21:51 AM | Ja*** | USDT TRC-20 | TNb*** | 35 | 2.26 | Paid | 5858109a50... |
| 11/13/2022 8:18:35 AM | la*** | USDT TRC-20 | TEL*** | 225 | 14.23 | Paid | d7fec4ba44... |
| 11/13/2022 8:01:24 AM | de*** | USDT TRC-20 | TBL*** | 300 | 20.76 | Paid | 6dd70a8338... |
| 11/13/2022 7:32:28 AM | Pe*** | USDT TRC-20 | TXu*** | 15 | 0.98 | Paid | 3510c8f75f... |
| 11/12/2022 10:59:48 PM | ti*** | USDT TRC-20 | TNd*** | 478 | 32.45 | Paid | 3e7ce77f3d... |
| 11/12/2022 10:30:52 PM | La*** | USDT TRC-20 | TEE*** | 30 | 1.94 | Paid | 6405f1fc68... |
| 11/12/2022 10:18:21 PM | Vi*** | USDT TRC-20 | TFQ*** | 149 | 9.44 | Paid | 6166ae8520... |
| 11/12/2022 9:01:33 PM | bo*** | USDT TRC-20 | TBi*** | 100 | 6.35 | Paid | d365a8c6e5... |
| 11/12/2022 8:18:20 PM | Ud*** | USDT TRC-20 | THi*** | 11.5 | 0.76 | Paid | e45f03110f... |
| 11/12/2022 2:12:58 PM | mu*** | USDT TRC-20 | TWi*** | 100 | 6.96 | Paid | 15f68b33c5... |
| 11/12/2022 1:45:02 PM | Ir*** | USDT TRC-20 | TX1*** | 61 | 4.27 | Paid | cbc82fc473... |
| 11/12/2022 1:26:05 PM | Va*** | USDT TRC-20 | TNR*** | 10 | 0.63 | Paid | 1dd0e66ac1... |
| 11/12/2022 1:09:21 PM | Pa*** | USDT TRC-20 | TFL*** | 50 | 3.51 | Paid | d2931b32e2... |
| 11/12/2022 12:13:35 PM | Ka*** | USDT TRC-20 | TDs*** | 100 | 6.35 | Paid | 4576c2d702... |
| 11/12/2022 11:22:40 AM | ya*** | USDT TRC-20 | TMq*** | 100 | 6.96 | Paid | d53e34461a... |
| 11/12/2022 10:58:58 AM | va*** | ePayCore | E04*** | 10 | 0.75 | Paid | 1142580 |
| 11/12/2022 10:45:23 AM | ki*** | USDT TRC-20 | TQZ*** | 78 | 5.44 | Paid | 051ac3974d... |
| 11/12/2022 10:19:24 AM | AB*** | USDT TRC-20 | TVJ*** | 13 | 0.95 | Paid | d72f48487d... |
| 11/12/2022 10:02:11 AM | Al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TLd*** | 225 | 14.23 | Paid | 754ba6b8df... |
| 11/12/2022 9:56:20 AM | fa*** | USDT TRC-20 | TJD*** | 31 | 2.20 | Paid | 87ad8dc524... |
| 11/12/2022 9:45:49 AM | Go*** | USDT TRC-20 | TCJ*** | 100 | 6.96 | Paid | 932e15f6a5... |
| 11/12/2022 9:26:29 AM | Ni*** | USDT TRC-20 | TD5*** | 50 | 3.51 | Paid | dbe01cd55a... |
| 11/12/2022 8:48:36 AM | Al*** | USDT TRC-20 | TWu*** | 150 | 9.50 | Paid | 1f06aa9f16... |
| 11/12/2022 8:40:42 AM | Va*** | USDT TRC-20 | TNR*** | 10 | 0.75 | Paid | b6ab1acf34... |
| 11/12/2022 8:36:48 AM | el*** | Perfect Money | U39*** | 100 | 6.35 | Paid | 491580534 |
| 11/12/2022 7:57:16 AM | la*** | USDT TRC-20 | TEL*** | 225 | 15.58 | Paid | 7041fee2f6... |
USER PANEL
UNDER INSURANCE
| 1. | 🔥🔥 Madenerium.com | $2,000 |
| 2. | 🔥 Netmi.org | $500 |
| 3. | 🔥 Aitimart.com | $500 |
| 4. | 🥈 Realconstruction... | $300 |
| 5. | 🥈 Planetaryasset.c... | $250 |
| 6. | 🥈 Bemarg.com | $250 |
| 7. | 🥈 Newbond.io | $250 |
| 8. | 🥈 Arbinode.com | $250 |
| 9. | 🥈 Luckymints.net | $250 |
TOP DEPOSITED (10 DAYS)
| 1. | 🔥 Globaltradinge... | $13777 |
| 2. | 🔥 Bemarg.com | $3523 |
| 3. | 🔥 Glooon.com | $2605 |
| 4. | 🔥 Madenerium.com | $2540 |
| 5. | 🥇 Luckymints.net | $2392 |
| 6. | 🥇 Goldenprice.bi... | $2357 |
| 7. | 🥇 Profit-invest.... | $1456 |
| 8. | 🥇 Pricelesscapit... | $1370 |
| 9. | 🥇 Capital-coin.b... | $1262 |
| 10. | 🥈 Newbond.io | $1240 |
| 11. | 🥈 Axera.io | $964 |
| 12. | 🥈 Bull-pay.com | $750 |
| 13. | 🥈 Avenex.io | $716 |
| 14. | 🥈 Bitmie.pro | $641 |
| 15. | 🥈 Astramind.org | $518 |
| 16. | 🥉 Arcbotic.com | $444 |
| 17. | 🥉 Aitimart.com | $350 |
| 18. | 🥉 Swaiafx.com | $290 |
| 19. | 🥉 Helix-ventures... | $200 |
| 20. | 🥉 Paltenaholding... | $200 |
TOP INVESTORS
| 1. | 🔥 Galyte | $2214 |
| 2. | 🥇 MurloKot | $1206 |
| 3. | 🥇 grek8310 | $1128 |
| 4. | 🥇 Sasha | $900 |
| 5. | 🥈 Eximinds | $854 |
| 6. | 🥈 kent | $689 |
| 7. | 🥈 miko2727 | $580 |
| 8. | 🥉 komissar | $551 |
| 9. | 🥉 DarkAngel | $501 |
| 10. | 🥉 kacemtrans | $451 |
| 1. | 🔥 MurloKot | $3119 |
| 2. | 🔥 Galyte | $3074 |
| 3. | 🔥 Eximinds | $2235 |
| 4. | 🔥 kent | $1940 |
| 5. | 🔥 grek8310 | $1934 |
| 6. | 🔥 miko2727 | $1739 |
| 7. | 🔥 katarnaakk | $1561 |
| 8. | 🥇 DarkAngel | $1251 |
| 9. | 🥇 mojokpyt | $1053 |
| 10. | 🥇 Strong110 | $1034 |
| 11. | 🥇 ncs | $1004 |
| 12. | 🥇 Sasha | $900 |
| 13. | 🥇 komissar | $801 |
| 14. | 🥇 lisapool | $796 |
| 15. | 🥇 kimchon1104 | $706 |
| 16. | 🥇 Rovens | $700 |
| 17. | 🥇 forte | $625 |
| 18. | 🥇 Said | $605 |
| 19. | 🥇 LifeIsDifficul... | $602 |
| 20. | 🥇 yarek | $500 |
| 21. | 🥇 tolika6 | $500 |
| 22. | 🥇 slana | $482 |
| 23. | 🥈 BlackCrypto | $476 |
| 24. | 🥈 kacemtrans | $451 |
| 25. | 🥈 CryptoDice | $390 |
| 26. | 🥈 stiv90 | $372 |
| 27. | 🥈 Kofistrupp | $341 |
| 28. | 🥈 Bodi | $325 |
| 29. | 🥈 amy | $320 |
| 30. | 🥈 phuchunglaitat... | $306 |
| 31. | 🥈 Kanes | $304 |
| 32. | 🥈 ant | $300 |
| 33. | 🥈 Andrey1986 | $269 |
| 34. | 🥈 andresta21 | $262 |
| 35. | 🥈 janeair | $260 |
| 36. | 🥈 Aidar | $256 |
| 37. | 🥈 traktorist78 | $255 |
| 38. | 🥉 Tandem | $250 |
| 39. | 🥉 Irina22 | $250 |
| 40. | 🥉 invester_uz | $242 |
| 41. | 🥉 maxidvd | $232 |
| 42. | 🥉 den6 | $223 |
| 43. | 🥉 ZinaYa | $220 |
| 44. | 🥉 blackadder | $189 |
| 45. | 🥉 XAM | $179 |
| 46. | 🥉 gam3rboy | $170 |
| 47. | 🥉 degan | $165 |
| 48. | 🥉 maya | $151 |
| 49. | 🥉 Lordborg | $150 |
| 50. | 🥉 Bazilio | $150 |
| 1. | 🔥 MurloKot | $17066 |
| 2. | 🔥 Eximinds | $6729 |
| 3. | 🔥 katarnaakk | $6707 |
| 4. | 🔥 LifeIsDifficul... | $6036 |
| 5. | 🥇 kijun10kan | $4901 |
| 6. | 🥇 grek8310 | $3769 |
| 7. | 🥇 komissar | $3669 |
| 8. | 🥇 forte | $3658 |
| 9. | 🥇 Galyte | $3555 |
| 10. | 🥇 miko2727 | $3549 |
| 11. | 🥇 nagyso | $3440 |
| 12. | 🥇 kimchon1104 | $3185 |
| 13. | 🥇 kent | $2940 |
| 14. | 🥈 Rovens | $2553 |
| 15. | 🥈 slana | $2512 |
| 16. | 🥈 lisapool | $2092 |
| 17. | 🥈 Said | $2011 |
| 18. | 🥈 mmadtab123 | $1943 |
| 19. | 🥈 Tandem | $1918 |
| 20. | 🥈 Aidar | $1908 |
| 21. | 🥈 BlackCrypto | $1751 |
| 22. | 🥈 blackadder | $1724 |
| 23. | 🥉 phuchunglaitat... | $1705 |
| 24. | 🥉 gam3rboy | $1644 |
| 25. | 🥉 DarkAngel | $1630 |
| 26. | 🥉 traktorist78 | $1610 |
| 27. | 🥉 ncs | $1511 |
| 28. | 🥉 fancyanh | $1501 |
| 29. | 🥉 kacemtrans | $1486 |
| 30. | 🥉 Sruti | $1405 |
| 1. | 🔥 MurloKot | $52037 |
| 2. | 🔥 Eximinds | $20200 |
| 3. | 🔥 katarnaakk | $15334 |
| 4. | 🔥 miko2727 | $14680 |
| 5. | 🔥 forte | $13607 |
| 6. | 🔥 tolyan3008 | $13603 |
| 7. | 🔥 LifeIsDifficul... | $13561 |
| 8. | 🥇 lisapool | $11833 |
| 9. | 🥇 grek8310 | $11415 |
| 10. | 🥇 Invi | $11314 |
| 11. | 🥇 zinnia | $9138 |
| 12. | 🥇 Bojack | $7600 |
| 13. | 🥇 kent | $7519 |
| 14. | 🥇 XAM | $7036 |
| 15. | 🥇 slana | $6396 |
| 16. | 🥇 gam3rboy | $6378 |
| 17. | 🥇 Rovens | $6300 |
| 18. | 🥇 Motoren | $6230 |
| 19. | 🥇 komissar | $6162 |
| 20. | 🥇 Stolz | $6090 |
| 21. | 🥇 DarkAngel | $6014 |
| 22. | 🥇 kimchon1104 | $5759 |
| 23. | 🥈 AndiO | $5689 |
| 24. | 🥈 Tandem | $5666 |
| 25. | 🥈 xoa139 | $5640 |
| 26. | 🥈 montana125 | $5520 |
| 27. | 🥈 jonman777 | $5395 |
| 28. | 🥈 Aidar | $5239 |
| 29. | 🥈 svet | $5169 |
| 30. | 🥈 nagyso | $5090 |
| 31. | 🥈 kijun10kan | $4901 |
| 32. | 🥈 blackadder | $4816 |
| 33. | 🥈 vojun | $4662 |
| 34. | 🥈 Said | $4510 |
| 35. | 🥈 amy | $4408 |
| 36. | 🥈 kacemtrans | $4395 |
| 37. | 🥈 Galyte | $4393 |
| 38. | 🥉 Bodi | $4333 |
| 39. | 🥉 Natahoney | $4301 |
| 40. | 🥉 traktorist78 | $4276 |
| 41. | 🥉 shamurla | $4210 |
| 42. | 🥉 lilbaby | $4182 |
| 43. | 🥉 smart1962 | $4050 |
| 44. | 🥉 ncs | $3969 |
| 45. | 🥉 besom3276 | $3955 |
| 46. | 🥉 Lev | $3886 |
| 47. | 🥉 mohgue | $3800 |
| 48. | 🥉 Isa | $3721 |
| 49. | 🥉 maya | $3670 |
| 50. | 🥉 Tolan166 | $3660 |
MONITOR STATISTIC
| Total RCBs processed: | 383001 |
| Total deposited: | $50098903 |
| Total RCB paid: | $1460674 |
| RCBs pending count: | 28 |
| RCB pending amount: | $136 |
| RCBs count (24h): | 28 |
| RCBs deposits (24h): | $3466 |
LAST ADDED PROJECTS
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| 12.09.2024: 9% - 10% - 11% - 12% mont... | ||
| Helix-ventures.net | Paying | |
| 09.09.2024: 2.8% - 3.5% daily for 30 ... | ||
| Bull-pay.com | Paying | |
| 08.09.2024: 0.7% - 0.8% daily for 10 ... | ||
| Tronsares.com | Paying | |
| 08.09.2024: 3% - 7% daily for 100 day... | ||
| Trongy.io | Paying | |
| 05.09.2024: 2% - 1.8% daily for 40 da... | ||
| Globaltradingexperts.com | Paying | |
| 04.09.2024: 2% daily for 365 days (de... | ||
| Luckymints.net | Paying | |
| 04.09.2024: from 3.2% to 5.7% on week... | ||
| Arcbotic.com | Paying | |
| 04.09.2024: 10% - 12% daily for 12 bu... | ||
| Madenerium.com | Paying | |
| 30.08.2024: 0.84% - 2.57% daily for 3... | ||
| Astramind.org | Paying | |
| 29.08.2024: 0.6% daily for 7 days (de... | ||
| Future-bitcoininvestment.ltd | Paying | |
| 28.08.2024: 2% - 8% daily for 50 days... | ||
| Diurnalpay.com | Paying | |
| 25.08.2024: 1% - 2% daily for 14 - 28... | ||
| Tronmainer.com | Paying | |
| 24.08.2024: 3.5% daily for 10 days (d... | ||
| Stakeon.pro | Paying | |
| 19.08.2024: 0.5% - 1.0% daily for 30 ... | ||
LATEST DEPOSITS & PAYOUTS
| Bitlom.com | $4 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 11:23:01 AM | ||
| Luckymints.net | $3.5 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 11:18:24 AM | ||
| Wallstreetyield... | $101 | Deposit |
| 9/13/2024 10:59:43 AM | ||
| Globaltradingex... | $15.43 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 10:31:09 AM | ||
| Globaltradingex... | $15.03 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 8:38:27 AM | ||
| Globaltradingex... | $10.42 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 8:30:29 AM | ||
| Avenex.io | $30 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 8:26:03 AM | ||
| Tronsares.com | $5.92 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 6:00:06 AM | ||
| Pricelesscapita... | $0.86 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 5:51:01 AM | ||
| Goldenprice.biz | $12.9 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 5:50:01 AM | ||
| Bemarg.com | $6.48 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 5:47:36 AM | ||
| Globaltradingex... | $9.95 | Payout |
| 9/13/2024 5:14:02 AM | ||
| Netmi.org | $4.5 | Payout |
| 9/12/2024 10:43:01 PM | ||
| Planetaryasset.... | $2.4 | Payout |
| 9/12/2024 10:35:01 PM | ||
| Newbond.io | $2.4 | Payout |
| 9/12/2024 10:28:01 PM |
LATEST COMMENTS & VOTES
| Goldenprice.biz | Very Good | |
| 🟢💰 GOLDENPRICE💰🟢 Paying !! My ... | ||
| Aista.space | Very Good | |
| Operation ID: 27696530 Operation D... | ||
| Aista.space | Very Good | |
| Deposit Aista Batch number: 281076... | ||
| Aista.space | Very Good | |
| Funds have been credited to your ba... | ||
| Aista.space | Very Good | |
| Date and time 13/09/2024 at 4:48 T... | ||
| Tronmainer.com | Very Good | |
| Пришла, заказанная вчера выплата. ... | ||
| Aitimart.com | Very Good | |
| 🟢💰 AITIMART 💰🟢 Paying !! My PR... | ||
| Goldenprice.biz | Very Good | |
| Date and time Today at 11:01 ... | ||
| Arcbotic.com | Very Good | |
| ID операции: 2563193 Дата операции... | ||
| Bemarg.com | Very Good | |
| Очередной инстант! 🚀 Time (UTC):2... | ||
| Goldenprice.biz | Very Good | |
| 🟢💰 GOLDENPRICE💰🟢 Paying !! My ... | ||
| Goldenprice.biz | Very Good | |
| Instant payout! 6.19 USD has been s... | ||
| Arcbotic.com | Very Good | |
| Instant Payment! Transaction ID:... | ||
| Assetloud.com | Very Good | |
| hello. Assetloud.com One of the mos... | ||
| Aista.space | Very Good | |
| Funds have been credited to your ba... | ||
PARTNERS
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